What are you passionate about in life? What does bravery mean to you? Rick and Kate process their interview about recipe creation with trained chef Penny Liley who incorporates courage and joy in her cooking. An opportunity to contemplate how being fearless about your choices and loving what you eat leads to compassion for yourself and others.

What makes a good recipe? What are the traditional ingredient pairings one can rely on? How do you just make stuff up? Penny Liley is here to answer our questions. Le Cordon Bleu trained, Penny has cooked for the drivers of France’s famed Grand Prix as well as schoolmasters at London’s Eton College before shifting to hospitality. From her hotel barge in Burgundy, France, Penny offers her advice on recipe creation using local, whole foods, and her opinion on the difference between European and American eating habits. She speaks brilliantly on why cooking requires being brave and following your passion. Also, listen for a mind-blowing recipe involving arugula!